Wednesday, December 05, 2007

Found Out About You - We Know About All Of You, Every Last One Of You & Where The Trail Leads - Thus In Memoriam To My Dear Friend Doug Hopkins

NOW..."HOLD ME DOWN"...

For the ghosts of those who once traveled the old trail,
over the creek near the ol' wishing well, would not let him forget.

A Yesteryear Storybook Tale Begins Once Again...

As Two Little boys Walk home together at dusk...
just As They were nearing Home They Saw Both Of
Their Mom's & Their Sisters Outside Talking Together
Obviously waiting There Just For Both Of Them To
finally make it in for the night.

They Looked At Each Other knowing that they
were both once again in real big trouble but ...
But both winked at each other & smiled anyway...

As They Got Closer Both Their Sisters Giggling Started
In With "Spooky, Spooky Both Of You Are Just So Spooky"

We found Out about both Of You Two spooky Boys...
Now your both Once again in Real Big Trouble...
( More little girls giggles as they continued )

"Well My Spooky Brother Doug Believes
That He Sings To Spooky Dead Ghosts
That Forever Dance In His Head".

"Well My Spooky Brother Believes In His Head
He Forever Dances With The Spooky Spirits Of The Dead.
(more giggles as they continued on)

For "We found out about How Spooky you Both Are...Always
Going Down To The Graveyard To Sing & Dance With The Dead
To Talk to Spooky Ghosts & Spirits Within Your Head
Near That Spooky Ol' Wishing Well ...Where Spooky Ol'
Ghosts & Spirits Are Led... To Dwell In Hell".
He He He Ha Ha ha...You Both Are Just Soooo Spooky...

Both their mothers were discussing something in
hushed & whispered tones amongst themselves
while the girls were still giggling away.

" Now Girl's that's enough".
( Both Girls finally fell silent. )

Then Both Their Mom's Started In...
"Do Both Of You Boys Realize what Time it Is?
For Both Of You Are Very late for dinner"...

"And Just look At Both Of You Two's Shoes
They Are Once Again All Wet & Muddy"

Yes, "We Found Out About You Both Once Again
Going To Where Both of You Were Told Not to Go.
And Once Again Both Of You Boys Didn't Listen
To A Word That We've Been Telling Both Of You,
About Staying Out Of The Creek And Far Away
From That Old Wishing Well Near the Graveyard.

"For We Have Told Both You Boys Time & Time Again
That It Was Dangerous To Go Over There & To Stay
Far Away From There Permanently...OK".
Now promise both of Us that Both of You will not
Go back there ever again, Do both of you understand.
( both boys Nodded & sheepishly said "well OK")

"Now Go On Inside...Girls Lets Go Now"
"Good night"...Good night".

"Be Seeing Ya Tomorrow Once Again...Bye"
Yeah "Be Seeing Ya Tomorrow Once Again...Bye Doug".

Thus As They All Walked towards both Of their respected
homes, their sisters continued to giggle & call out
Spooky...Spooky...Spooky...

( Their voices & giggles i can still hear but
ringing in my ears even now after all these
years as if it but were just yesterday)

Then As We All Entered & The Door Was Closed Behind,
Lay An Ending To Another Well Remembered Day Of Adventure...

Thus In Remembrance To My Childhood Friend Doug Hopkins
& Our Lifetime Of Eternal Friendship...


Still Can I See Us Playing Down by The Creek
And Going To the Ol' Wishing Well for Just a Peak

Going Where Our Mothers So Told Us Not to Go Nor Sail
But Skipping Merrily Along Anyway while Making Up A Tale

For at Dusk We Knew We would have to return to Mother
But for now winking & smiling & promising Each Other

"If You Don't Say A Word Than Either Will I Tell"
We Have Once Again Gone To The Creek Near The Ol' Wishing Well

Then Dusk Would Descend & we knew we would have to part
& thus returning home we would leave with a parting line
Of..."Be Seeing You There Tommorrow But Once Again"

Then I Awoke From That Distant Dream & Realized
That It Wasn't Just Yesterday I'm Dreaming Of
But Near 40 Years in The Past Now, & I Look
Around Me & I See That I'm No Longer that Little Boy
Playing With My Friend Doug & Dreaming of Us Going
Down by The Creek Near That Ol' Wishing Well...

But In some strange sense Of Time & Space
Was It Not Just Yesterday I Just Dreamed Of...

When I "Found Out About You"...Once Again...

Song lyrics | Found Out About You lyrics

( Be Seeing Ya In Another Lifetime Once Again
Skipping Stones & Hopping Stones Down By The River's Stream
Then Going To The Ol' Forbidden Wishing Well & Echoing Down
Forth Our Most Sacred Little Boy's Dream.

Thus After 14 years of Silence - Out from The Grave - Even If
I've Been Screaming Bloody Murder For the Past 14 Years Now.

Now unto the Basic Facts in this 14 year matter...
#1. You Murdered Him & Then All Called Out Suicide
covered it up & got everybody To Believe It....
( I knew Doug ever since we were little boys,
He would never commit Suicide, that's Bull-S.H.I.T.

#2. You All Had a Big $$$$ Stake At The Time in taking over
All His copyrights to his lyrics & Music tabs...
( He wrote all The Music & lyrics, & You All can Lie
all You want To After All These Years But That's The truth & You All Know It
right There Bill, Robin & Jesse ( all Three Of you couldn't hold a candle to Doug and you know It, & you'll Take It To all Your Graves with You...
He' s got something awaiting for you all don't Ya worry!

A Day Of Glad Remembrance - Vengeance Out from The Grave -
And Deep Sadness & Reflective Sorrows - Doth Today Bring.

I've know all along That they killed Him & Then said &
feigned He committed suicide to cover Their TRACKS...
Ya right Even Unto The Tracks They Laid Down On Their albums
all The Tracks & lyrics Were Written by Doug... That's right
& Then They Tried To Get him To sign it Over To Them For nothing Right Before His so called suicide Death Quite Suspicious NO...HMMMM...who's Lying To Who Hear!

All Those mechanical and publishing royalties & copy rights...
After All these Years That's BIG $$$$... Sadly All Gone To Them!!!

The saddest thing is that your so called friends
become your enemies quite easily & quickly.
But true Friendship Is Eternal & Lasts Forever.

The Bottom Line here is they all used, abused
Set- Up & Lied like Hell against Doug
Then Ultimately set him Up & MURDERED HIM...
ALL FOR THEIR PROFIT & GAIN...
Right There manipulative and conniving JESSE & LAWRENCE

Right There Bill false Friend Turncoat Leen -
Phillip "I see nothing" Rhodes -
Jesse manipulative and conniving Rotten Bastard Backstabber Valenzuela -
Robin Two Faced Liar sneaky rotten Wilson, Plus
Marshall "sure Ya Really Wrote It" Crenshaw &
The Planner & Set up artist Backstabber John Hampton
An Ardent-based Asinine producer at Ardent Studios in Memphis.
Along with Play-along George Marino,
Set up artist James "Left Of" Senter,
Let's Not forget bullshit Bryan Huttenhower,
the A&R rep who had signed the band to A&M.
( Hampton & Huttenhower & others set It up well, they always Do!!

Don't forget x-manager Laura Liewen either Or
the band's lawyer, Gene Salomon ( hey gene What UP)

& zubia & The Chimeras ( We will get To Them Later & lastly
For they were In The end the last ones To help in The whole sordid Tale)

Now About The Morty Money factor.
Lets Not forget him In This whole affair...

Morty Wiggins of Bill Graham Management in San Francisco, the Gin Blossoms' manager, says that BGM quarterbacks the band. But they also have an attorney, a record label, an A&R guy from the record company, a booking agent at William Morris, a business manager to handle their money (and their taxes). And they each have a publishing company for their songs. Everyone works through Wiggins. He says it's a form of checks and balances. And it's all very complicated.

Here their cover=Up Version filled With Lies & Doug States it as Such!

While the band was on the road, A&M decided that John Hampton, the producer who mixed Up and Crumbling, would work on New Miserable Experience.
Because Hampton's wife was pregnant and couldn't travel, the band journeyed to Memphis and Ardent Studios, where Hampton was a staff producer.

Before they left, however, the Blossoms decided (they say under pressure from the label to hire a big-time manager) to fire Laura Liewen,
who had been handling the band's business affairs since the spring of 1988. Liewen also had taken over booking local and national dates and
was instrumental in negotiating the band's record deal. Everyone in the band admits she was a key element in its success. "When Laura got fired, we called a meeting," Hopkins recalls.
"We were all sitting in a room, Laura walked in, sat down and then there was a horrible, horrible, horrible silence for a couple of minutes where everybody just kind of looked at
their shorts or whatever. Finally, Laura said, 'Well, what's this meeting about?' Then there was another horrible silence before Robin, to his credit,
mustered the guts to say, 'Well, I guess what we're trying to say is you're fired.' Laura picked up her stuff and got out."

However, two weeks after they fired her, she says,
the Blossoms rehired her to handle their local booking.
Then, last week, this band on the verge of national recognition
called from the road to rehire her as business manager.

"I don't want to be put in the same category as Doug," says Liewen. "There aren't hard feelings between me and the band, the publisher and the label."

Reasons Behind...
#rule 1 of the:
@body snatchers:$

The band's dealings with Doug Hopkins are far from over. Hopkins claims that the band's lawyer, Gene Salomon, has informed him that the band is
withholding $12,000 in songwriting royalties owed him until he agrees to sign a settlement that includes, among other things, a clause that he will receive less money from the sale of the album. Hopkins says he won't sign. He says the Blossoms are banking on the fact that he's too poor to sue them. Reached in his L.A. office last week, Salomon would not deny much of what Hopkins says. But Salomon says the band has done nothing improper in respect to any monies "allegedly owed Doug," adding,
"We expect this matter to be settled shortly."

Morty Wiggins of Bill Graham Management in San Francisco, the Gin Blossoms' manager, says that BGM quarterbacks the band. But they also have an attorney, a record label, an A&R guy from the record company, a booking agent at William Morris, a business manager to handle their money (and their taxes). And they each have a publishing company for their songs. Everyone works through Wiggins. He says it's a form of checks and balances. And it's all very complicated.
( Morty In On It You Bet Ya He Was...& God In Heaven Above Knows IT!!!

Original Gin Blossom Doug Hopkins is conspicuously absent. Many thought him the band's inspiration--he's known for his songwriting style, but they had a falling out. Plus, Robin says, Hopkins didn't much like what Robin calls "the major label dance. He didn't like all the hoop-jumping that we've got to do." Eventually, they parted...He Knew The Cost Of major label murder backstabbers & Wanted To Stay With Smaller independent Labels, & In The end They all Killed him over It & His copy Rights To Hiis songs & Set it Up as A Suicide & had everyone Believing it Still Until This Day What an Evil Scummy Sham & Shame They all Performed On Doug!!!

Now More Jesse V. Vindictive Lies & Set UP jelousy Crap spewn forth as Usual...
"It got to the point," Sell Out Egoist backstabber guitarist Jesse Valenzuela says, "where Hampton would call Doug at the hotel and say, 'Don't bother coming down because all you ever do is bring the guys down
and we're trying to make a record here.'"
Finally, say the other Blossoms, Hopkins agreed to fly back to the Valley for good.
He missed his first flight because, according to the band, he passed out at the airport. (Hopkins calls this version of events "complete bullshit.)

Yes Doug Was Very opinionated & outspoken...so What at Least
He wasn't a backstabbing two Faced liar Like They Are.

The next day, according to the band, Ardent engineer James Senter doused Hopkins with Lavoris and Hai Karate after-shave and got him on the plane.
Senter called Ardent from the airport, and the entire band remembers listening over the studio's speaker phone to a blow-by-blow report of the plane taxiing and taking off.

Hopkins admits that he "went to the hospital the night I got back," but he denies that the Memphis sessions and the scene at the airport went down that bad.

"I'm sure Jesse presented it to A&M in such a way that it sounded like they were dragging me out of the gutter every morning to go to the studio," Hopkins says.
"God knows what he told them. He's very manipulative and conniving. A very calculating person."
The way the Blossoms recall it, it was clear by then that Hopkins had to go. What would they say to him when they returned home?
A call from Bryan Huttenhower, the A&R rep who had signed the band to A&M and remains its main contact with the label, helped make up the band members' minds.

Valenzuela's version: "Bryan called us in Memphis and said, 'Look, I've been talking to you about Doug for a long time and you've got to do something about this
or the record's not coming out.' And we're like, 'Well, what does he mean, Hampton?' Hampton said, 'I think what he's saying to you is he wants Doug out.'"

Valenzuela, Wilson and the rest of the band seem to remember this critical moment in the band's history in exquisite detail,
but Huttenhower denies ever making such a threat about the record "not coming out."

"It never happened," LIAR Huttenhower says from his Los Angeles office. "If Doug was still in the band, the record would still have come out.
The situation with Doug was hampering the existence and productivity of the band. I liked Doug when he was contributing.
But that hasn't been flowing for a long time. It's unfortunate. Doug's a very talented guy, but he's got a problem. Read his lyrics. It's all over them."
Huttenhower is working both sides of the street with the point about Hopkins' lyrics, however.
While it's true that verses like this from "Lost Horizons--I'll drink enough of anything/To make myself look new again/Drunk, drunk,
drunk/In the gardens and the graves--obviously reveal a preoccupation with alcohol, it's also true that those lyrics and that kind of song--what the Blossoms do best--
led Huttenhower to sign the Blossoms to A&M.
( Use His Own Great lyrics against him, What a rotten Bastard & Then set him up for A fall, plus instigate it further along with Git Bag Hampton)

That alcohol is such a scapegoat shows that there may have been more at work in the band's decision to boot Hopkins than just his drinking.
( the drinking was another Excuse Of Theirs to show That Doug was F-Ed)
After five years together, it's clear from the comments
and attitude on both sides that relationships within the band had fractured.
Once the best of friends, Wilson and Hopkins, for example, started feuding--and haven't stopped. ( why Because Wilson Is A Two Faced backstabbing LIAR).

The band never told Hopkins directly that he was out. He had to learn of it from ex-manager Laura Liewen, who told him, she recalls, "because I thought he should know."

When it came to replacing Hopkins, the band members say they're better off without him. The only catch is his songs. But the band claims that's not a problem.

"If Doug had been a songwriting genius, maybe the band and the label could have put up with it," Valenzuela says, ignoring the obvious fact that, genius or not,
Hopkins was the best the Blossoms had.

"The only songs of Doug's we're doing now are 'Hey, Jealousy' and 'Hold Me Down,'" Wilson says. "And personally, I co-wrote 'Hold Me Down.'
And on 'Hey, Jealousy,' Jesse wrote a lot of the music. I also wrote a lot of the melody and a couple of the lyrics there.
That song is so much a part of us, it says 'Doug Hopkins' next to it but we really wrote it as a group.

"There are a couple of songs like 'Lost Horizons' that are Doug Hopkins songs, but he wasn't even there when we fucking recorded them. We did it without him."


Hopkins explodes when he hears what Wilson says about him and his songs.
"This shit about them wanting a piece of 'Hey, Jealousy' or something is just patently fuckin' ridiculous," Hopkins says during a separate interview
at Restaurant Mexico.
(The restaurant itself, being right across the street from Long Wong's in Tempe, is an integral part of the group's existence, even for ex-members.)
"He didn't write a note of that.
Neither did Jesse. Robin's a coattail-jumping son of a bitch!
"When I write a song, I write a melody note for note.
Anyone who knows my writing can pick out a Doug song.
And as for me not being on the record,
that's bullshit--my fuckin' guitar is all over it."

Although Hopkins' departure from the band made enemies of him and singer Robin Wilson (Hopkins was ejected from a Tempe club for punching Wilson in the face).
(Too Bad He didn't Take Your evil Lying Head Right Off There ROBIN!!!

Hopkins has a point there--and other Blossoms besides Robin Wilson would acknowledge it. "When we got to Memphis, it became obvious that he just couldn't handle it
and he didn't want to be there. So he didn't have much input," Valenzuela says. "He worked pretty hard the first four or five days.
Then he went home. Once he came back, we couldn't get him to do much work. But most of the solos [on the record] are still Doug's."

Here's another money factor that factored In...

A&M got behind them right away, though they argued over the cover art which turned out to be a blurry cactus with SOMETHING resembling blossoms on it. And the last thing the band wanted was any funky saguaros blistering their cover. What happened to all those conversations with the record execs about art? Essentially the label told them they didn't know anything about marketing.

Robin and the rest of the band are laughing now, righteously validated, ever since they learned that A&M wants to redo the cover because they think they're on the verge of selling a whole bunch of records. In a long, run-on verbal clobbering Robin exhales "...We TOLD them we didn't like the cover BEFORE the record came out. We protested, we screamed, we yelled, they FORCED us into using that cover. We voted yesterday on the phone that they deserved to be embarrassed, and if that record DOES sell 500,000 with that stupid cover that NOBODY likes, nobody in the band, nobody in our management, nobody at the record company, apparently...I think they deserve to be embarrassed by it." A different kind of artistic control.

Says Robin, "The business is like an insider's club.
Especially who gets named

"I used to feel that having a good scene is a bigger goal than any individual band or my band getting somewhere. I used to think the scene was so important. And now not only am I not a part of it--it's something I helped build--I don't understand it and there's NO WAY I can look back because I've got a manager named Morty and a lawyer named Geno...."

the record company making ominous threats to the rest of the
group unless Hopkins was dealt with, the band was forced to
do the unthinkable: fire Hopkins from his own band.

The Root Of All Evil Fame & Fortune, & Doug Hopkins Knew It...

In February, the Gin Blossoms were into A&M for probably half a million, give or take some. The disaster in L.A. cost ninety grand, Up and Crumbling cost around $30,000 and New Miserable Experience $100,000. Then there's rental on the rehearsal space and getting paid while on tour.

So how much do the need to make some money? Robin says, "If we get to a point that we're making $2,000 a night on tour, the tour will pay for itself, there will be profit involved and Morty can get a chunk of that. Every time we go out on tour, we're setting up to take another $75,000 from the label, the tab keeps getting bigger and bigger.
About The Money factor.

Morty Wiggins of Bill Graham Management in San Francisco, the Gin Blossoms' manager, says that BGM quarterbacks the band. But they also have an attorney, a record label, an A&R guy from the record company, a booking agent at William Morris, a business manager to handle their money (and their taxes). And they each have a publishing company for their songs. Everyone works through Wiggins. He says it's a form of checks and balances. And it's all very complicated.

"There are better songs on the Gin Blossoms' album than there are,
say, on most of Marshall Crenshaw's."--Musician magazine.
( That's why Marshall crenshaw stole Doug's songs also)
Bottom line truth & They Know It... Especially Morty Wiggins!

And Then How Much Were Certain People Paid Off To Then Pen
Lines Of faked Hyped Up Lies About Doug & his Death.

Let alone The Zubia Brothers...The final ones to all This...
They got paid off handsomely For It Too...
for Doug wrote Most Of Their shit too,
MO MONEY In Copy writes...GET IT YET!!!!
& The other Chimeras That Were also In The Know & In On It...
RIGHT THERE LIAR LAWRENCE ZUBIA...& make it happen mark Zubia...
You blew His Brains Out With His own gun
then left The Gun there besides Him so Then you would
come In later & find Him There & Everyone Would believe
That He had committed Suicide...REAL CONVENIENT!!!

The Real deal bottom Line truth Of Who murdered Who & who Was In On It even from The darkest Shadows Is a Real Bitch RIGHT THERE BILL LEAN & JESSE V. & Others.

Remember at The Time of his Death...( This is the One big Reason why They killed him to Get him out Of Their way & out of Their hair & Over Time Not to Have To Deal with him Over all The songs copyrighted To him...AHHH FOR $$$$$$$.
They All (wanted his mechanical and publishing royalties )"big $$$"
He didn't commit suicide HE WAS MURDERED BOTTOM LINE!

Doug had Told Me & many Others That he was fighting For his rights & for the proceeds That would come From Those Copyrights, So why would he Then go & kill Himself... That's Bull shit He didn't Kill Himself... They Were all In On It To Murder Him & get it all amongst Themselves (copy rights to HIS music) & Doug knew it. That's why He had Bought Himself A Gun, Not to kill himself but To protect himself from Them...Thats what he said to me...

But He never Figured In That They would Use The Zubiia's
To help In Doing The dirty work in the end though...
a Fatal mistake Right Lawrence Liar Zubia...
(wanted the mechanical and publishing royalties )
Copy rights To The Chimera's song
That Doug had written For Them Also)!!!

His body was found at 1:25 p.m. Sunday in his Tempe apartment by Lawrence Zubia,
who had worked with Hopkins in a band, The Chimeras, early this year.
( Guess Who Found Him, Convenient!)

and Then There is--Laurie Notaro, she knows the real truth Tooo..
so They all Invented As Usual satan worshippers do This Grand
Death scene revolving around This Powerful Personality In Their
Lives called Doug Hopkins & made His so called suicide Out To Believe
In The Lie so They Knew The Real truth But Over Time convinced
Themselves Of The satanistic Murder scene Cue They all could Share in
would be His Cover- Up suicide...This Is how They Have eternally Played It Out in Many cultures over many centuries Now...It's a Feast in One Great Souls Blood.
satan style With A Cover Up excuse As Usual In The end...Perfect & very convenient & it feeds into all Their Hate & jelousy & Blood Thirst.
Bottom Death Dealing Line & God & Death Both Know Who when Where & why In The whole matter Of murder Not Just suicide as They Would Have you Believe And as They even Convinced In The end themselves To believe In It...
Again as satanistically Usual.
This Practice Has been Playerd Out For centuries &
Is still Going on today as We speak...

Here's More Zubia double speak back stabbing Lies...right doug!!!

"Me and Doug made a deal in the last eight days that he would not lock his front door, because he was now living alone," Zubia said, adding that Hopkins' girlfriend had moved out. ( More Lies ) For when I Stayed with Doug He always Was very Particular about always locking The Door) Just In Case He would Say with A wink.
Yeah Just In case i would smile Back, Wink And repeat, it Was Our
"Just In Case Joke" we had since we Were Friends as little boys.
it's a Long story about Our mothers & Us Being told By Them "Just in Case"
da da Da Da...Ya Know...We would Just in Case Wink & Go Do it Anyway...

"That's why I became very concerned at this point.
I put my life on hold for the past week. ( More Zubia blatent bullshit lies)

The band's dealings with Doug Hopkins are far from over. Hopkins claims that the band's lawyer, Gene Salomon, has informed him that the band is
withholding $12,000 in songwriting royalties owed him until he agrees to sign a settlement that includes, among other things, a clause that he will receive less money from the sale of the album. Hopkins says he won't sign. He says the Blossoms are banking on the fact that he's too poor to sue them. Reached in his L.A. office last week, Salomon would not deny much of what Hopkins says. But Salomon says the band has done nothing improper in respect to any monies "allegedly owed Doug," adding,
"We expect this matter to be settled shortly."

Shit It would Be... Yeah With His Murder!!!
Shortly after, the band withheld about $15,000 in moneys owed Hopkins until he signed away approximately half of his publishing royalties. That share was transferred to Hopkins' replacement, guitarist Scott Johnson. Hopkins, then running out of money, reluctantly signed the papers. The album was released in August 1992. The band's lawyer could not be reached for comment.

I understand why they fired me," Hopkins said in an interview that summer,
"but did they have to get so fucking cold and ruthless about it?"

While the $498 found on him at the time of his death was every cent he had, a considerable sum, perhaps as much as $500, 000, according to his lawyer, will pour into his estate in the coming years from mechanical and publishing royalties.

As Doug said about them Before which was & still is the Truth
"He didn't write a note of that.
Neither did Jesse. Robin's a coattail-jumping son of a bitch.

Doug Hopkins' song is all over the radio and he's pissed about it.

"When it comes on the radio, I turn it off, because I don't really want to hear that," the writer of "Hey Jealousy" said. "It doesn't make me feel good or anything.

"I mean it makes me feel like I accomplished something,
but it didn't turn out the way I intended. Well, nothing ever does."

In April, Hopkins was fired as guitarist for Gin Blossoms,
the band he formed with bassist Bill Leen.

"Now's getting to be the time when, in a way it would be a lot of fun, because they're on the radio all the time," he said.

"It's my song but I don't enjoy it. I can't listen to it because it just pisses me off. "I started the band five years ago. I spent five years of my life on this, to get it to where it is now, and now it got yanked out from under me, so I'm a little on the disenfranchised side," he said during a recent interview.

His former bandmates, singer Robin Wilson, Leen, drummer Phillip Rhodes, guitarist Jesse Valenzuela and the group's newest member Scott Johnson on lead guitar.

"Hey Jealousy" was not even the song the band wanted as their first single, Hopkins said, adding that "Hold Me Down" was the preferred choice of himself and Wilson.

"One night we were sitting in the studio listening to it at Ardent," Hopkins said, referring to the Memphis studio where the album was recorded, "and, OK, it's like three in the morning and I was drunk and it sounded great blasting through those speakers and I turned to Robin and said, 'OK, I'll give you half credit on this song if you promise to vote with me on having this as our first single and video,' because we thought A&M (the band's label) was going to let us pick the first single and video. That's how naive we were."

As you might expect, both sides are engaged in a spitting match right now. It's unequal, though, because with record-company backing, ( They Called The Hit Out On Doug & To Make Sure It Was Covered as usual As suicide Or A Fall Or something...Bottom Line covenient) the band clearly has more legal muscle in any negotiations about rights to the songs Hopkins wrote while in the band

Also Ready To finally come Clean There Mr. LEEN!!!
( and You Had The Evil Audacity To Call Yourself Doug's Friend)
you were always jealous Of him & He Knew It, He told me So!!!
Let Alone The rest Especially Robin & Jesse...With Friends Like
You all Who Needs Enemies Or The devil & To Him you Both Go!

bottom Line They murdered him & surely made It Look Like a suicide.
it Happens All The time...Hell Look at The Danny Casolaro case.
( Another Case & Another Friend That I Have spoken Of In Past blogs)

"Doug was an easy person to take potshots at because he was a classic old-style Rolling Stones-era rock and roller," said Karen Lander,
publicist for the musician's coalition.

On the other hand, she said, "I have maintained from Day 1 that not a musician
in this town (Tempe) would have a job if not for Doug Hopkins."

"Doug was the most important figure on the local music scene. He was the most gifted songwriter...We were all hoping he would pick up the pieces and make a record that would dazzle you," Lander says. "When he came into the room with a guitar, there was a hush. You knew you were in the presence of something extraordinary."

"His ability to emotionally destroy or elate you was unbelievably keen. He could take a string of words and just make you feel it. It's the same thing that he applied to his guitar playing. It wasn't about virtuosity, but when he played--man, it just hit you like a freight train. It was just so, so fucking cool. The world is just not as cool without him around.

That He was truly Extraordinary In Every Way!!!

Hopkins' ultimate legacy lies in his music and in his words, maybe the real tragedy is that only a handful of people have had the privilege of hearing the majority of his work. ( See Only a Few To keep amongst Themselves to Go Through).the process of tracking down and cataloguing more than a decade's worth of material began, right there Robert Shipp, Going through dozens of tapes and notebooks, Shipp quickly realized that Hopkins had quietly created a vast and impressive body of work, only hinted at by his small discography. What the tapes and notes documented was the creative arc of a gifted and talented musical auteur. & Ahhh and What did You do With It....$$$$$$ sold It Right!!! And To Whom AHHHHH... The Very People who helped kill him & Then This suicide Legecy Thing You all wrappped up so nicely & Got Going There, lost in the shadow of this fake self-destructive myth That You all Made up surrounding Doug...

Doug Hopkins a True Poet & Wonderous StoryTeller
And A Fantastic Musician

Again To My Childhood Buddy Doug Hopkins
& Our Eternal Lost Horizons Friendship In
This Lifetime & The Next Within The Gardens
& The Graves Of Forever.

aah... To See That wondrous Look In The eye of Doug Once Again.
Still eternally etched in my Memories Minds Eye.
This is written In Truth & Friendship Out From The Grave
Unto His Ashes At Ash Avenue Bridge in Tempe.

To Doug's Family...Louie & Nancy Hopkins, Sister Sara, & RoB
How would you all feel after all these Years Later Knowing
That Doug was Murdered & Didn't committ Suicide As They Had
you All and Everybody Else except ing & Believing In...
Except For Me...For Since That day I have Never Believed
That The Cover Up Story Book Lie Of Suicide was True.

Let's hear it for expert witnesses,
A mercenary breed.
Ask them what they're prepared to say,
Their response is, "What do you need?"

If the cops want to say, "Self-murder,"
They will reinforce it:
The psychological autopsy
Is dusted off to endorse it.

Thus ever more victimization by
endless fraudulent post-mortem psychoanalyses.

lets get real here for we are talking about all those
Mechanical and publishing royalties & copy rights...
plus a whole lotta cash at stake there...
Bingo...There's the Real Deal Bottom Line_____.

yes we know Some of you out there are arming up
once again getting ready to present more psychobabble defense.

Psychoanalysis, itself, is not without its serious detractors, but when it is done long distance and post mortem, the reason for skepticism is increased. When the analyst relies almost completely upon secondary sources for his information about the subject's mental state, the validity of the inquiry results become all the more questionable. When those secondary sources are only newspapers, and the newspapers are only the bought off or into it all, then the whole exercise is little better than a sad sick joke.

How can you defend MURDER with that nonsense &
Have gotten away with it for this long...
called Big money RECORD COMPANIES & That's
why Doug Didn't Want To Deal With Them &
stay with An Independent Record label.
( We Discussed The Dangers Of Them All )

But They Pay Off Everybody in The end
So everybodies taken Care Of...Cash Wise At Least.

There is much to be learned about human folly and treachery
Take, for instance, the systematic corruption of our
so called upright institutions and professions.
(I.E. In This case the record companies
And The Music industrial complex at large)

Thus they represent those someones, who we may presume
to be Doug's murderers, who for many years now have wanted
many of you to think what Doug was thinking,
like they really knew oh they did, he was very blunt about it
and it ripped into all of them thoughly so, so their cover- Up
psychobabble defense is not a very good basis for Doug's psychoanalysis.
it points right back at all them as being quite involved in DOUG"S MURDER!!!

So Then What happens Next, Well Typically
The Same Satan's Murderous Set-Up people
who In The end Set You Up & Kill You Have
The Unmitigated Gull & Nerve to Show Up
At Your Own Bloody Funeral & Fakely Mourn Whilest
Giving Their insipid Condolenzes To Your Family...

Some Satanistic friends... Putting On A show...
more like enemies of Lying, Thieving & Murder...

Who do You think Doug Was refering To In "HOLD ME DOWN"

So I guess I must have just been dreaming
When I thought I heard myself say no
Anyway it looks like no one heard me so here I go
Cause when you're in the company of strangers
Or just the strangers you call friends
You know before you start just how its going to end.

( He Told Me That He suspected That They were going to
try & kill him... I Had Told Him They Were Going Too
& Too Watch His arse Because they Were Coming For him!
Again That's why he bought the Gun, RIGHT THERE ZUBIA!!!
He Never Trusted You Or ever left The door wide Open For You!!!

While Virtually every word of their statements
evaporates upon closer examination.

And Here are Some Of the classic techniques They use
( You Can see How many were so carefully
Crafted & Used In Doug's case also)

DCDave's - Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression
http://www.dcdave.com/article3/991228.html

We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping-jacks; they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are all intellectual prostitutes.

For I Know That You All Will Forever Dwell
Burning Within The Horrid Fires Of Hell.

Thus...With Words We Build & Words We break...
& When The Sin Smiles How Can It Be Wrong.

Right Or Wrong...
There it is like it Or Leave It
Truth sometime Is a Real bitch...
& Sadly Or Not, I'm Sticking to It...
Anyway I got Nowhere To Go...
Right There Mrs. Millers Bastard Son...
Hey That's ME Or is It?!!!

The Magic Mirror Of Reflected Truth
At The Truth That Lies Within...

Mirror,Mirror On The Wall
Tell The Tale To One And All
Let It Be Known Far And Wide
That Truth Be Cast From Deep Inside
Then All Shall Come To Gaze And See
The Reflection Of Truth That None Can Flee
Forever Held In A Tale Of Tales
Within A Hope That Never Fails
And Thus The Dream Shall Come To Pass
In A StoryBook Tale That Reflects In Glass

And in the End a Tragic Sad Tale Of
Misgiven Friendhip & Trust, Treachery & Betrayal,
Dishonesty & Lies, Coat Tail Jumpers & Manipulators
Evil Minded Set-Ups & Well Planned Out Cover-ups,
Violence & Murder, Awaiting Vengeance & Retribution

Yet In The Final End Of it All...
True Friendship & Sacred Remembrance
Hope & Faith, Truth & Love Amist All
Their Well Known Evil Lies & Hateful "Hey Jelousy".

In Memoriam To My Dear Friend Doug Hopkins
(April 11, 1961 – December 5, 1993)

Still Sometimes I Awake in The Still Of The Night
From A Long Ago Dream That Still Puts us traveling
along the mother road, the road of flight, towards
the old trail, over the creek near the ol' wishing well...
Which in the still of the night would still let me not forget.

That Even In Death that shall but carry thee past
a dreamy road of flight, back towards the old trail,
over the creek near the ol' wishing well...
He Is Still Awaiting There & That The...

For In The Still Of Night In The Middle Of a Dream
I Can Once Again Find Him & Can Still See Him There Awaiting...
Gleaming within that untravelled world, whose margin fades
For ever and for ever when I move closer towards it's end.

- Signed Sadly Gladly & Tragically -
Forever In Eternity * Glad Zero *

Let my persecutors be put to shame,
but keep me from shame;
let them be terrified,
but keep me from terror.
Bring on them the day of disaster;
destroy them with double destruction.
(Jeremiah 17:18)

For you know, O LORD,
all their plots to kill me.
Do not forgive their crimes
or blot out their sins from your sight.
Let them be overthrown before you;
deal with them in the time of your anger.
(Jeremiah 18:23)

An Old Irish Blessing

May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind always be at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face,
and rains fall soft upon your fields.
And until we meet again,
May God hold you in the palm of His hand.

For It Comes To Me In The Still Of Night In a Dream
Returning Back Out From The Shadows & Shades of The Past...
Haunting Me Once Again in Pleasent Memories Mind
Of That Which But Once Was In Time & Space & Of A Place
That Is Forever Still Held In Eternity.

Fade Now Once Again To "Just In Case"...(Wink - Wink)
I Found Out About You & That You've Gone Back To The Creek
Near The Ol' Wishing Well Of Remembrance Back In Black.

For Once again I'll see you there Forever
Singing To Spooky Dead Ghosts within Your Head".
And thus once again I'll Dance There Forever
With The Same Spooky Spirits Of The Dead.

( Be Seeing You There But Once Again...
Held Forever In A Little Boys Dream Awakening )